More photos from the late Ernest Cutler taken early 1980s.
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The Goldmine
By Dave Bullock (25/03/2013)
Its been know by several names over the years
By Janet Penn (25/03/2013)
Including “The Bay Country Club”….1940’s early 50’s
By Gerald Hudson (26/03/2013)
I think it was Bay Country Club much later than that. An older brother was a member and I went there with him and my Dad to celebrate my 21st in 1969. Was the guy that owned named Baker? I’ll ask my brother.
By Tony Maguire (27/03/2013)
Yes Tony, you are probably right about that. My father’s dance band “The Nightspots” played there from the late 40’s early 50’s and from my memory, a lady seemed to be the manageress during that period. We moved to Canada in 1953 and I learned, much later, that my cousin Chris Hill had a lot to do with “The Bay Country Club” being re-named “The Goldmine” in the ealy 70’s. The “Goldmine” story has been well documented in these archives
By Gerald Hudson (28/03/2013)
Hello The lady manager in the 50s wasc Mrs Cary, Don’t know if the spelling is correct but we used to hire roller skates from her on the dance floor on Sundays Regards Sparrow
By sparrow (28/03/2013)
Had a chat with my brother Peter who was a member of the Bay Country Club in the 1960’s. The owner then was Harry Baker-Brown. Peter thinks he took up the reins sometime in the mid 60’s. Sadly, Harry died of cancer around 1970. Peter remembered that Harry had a son who managed the English Olympic Judo team. I believe that this was Cliff Baker-Brown who seems to have been big in Judo circles (in more ways than one) and associated with clubs in Basildon and Thundersley, although I found a surprising paucity of information regarding this gent on the ‘net. However, I have found a possible relative from whom I await clarification. I’ll post anything more that I find about this potential Canvey link with Olympic Judo.
By Tony Maguire (29/03/2013)
You’re right about the judo connection, Tony. Cliff Baker Brown and the judo club used to train at Waterside when it first opened in the late 1970s. There was also a woman who trained with them and I think she was also a black belt. I can’t remember her name.
By Maureen Buckmaster (30/03/2013)
Hi, Yes Cliff used to Run the Judo club called the Olympic Judo Club at Waterside Farm. I was one of his students. Cliff passed away several years ago though Leslie is about and ok not sure about Beryl. HTH…
Just been looking at things about all this and judo, I belive these names was my grandad and great grandad never new it was all on here, was told about the stories but never new ??
By Justin baker-brown (17/03/2014)
I was a member of the Olympic Judo Club; I was also married to Cliff’s sister Kathy. We had many adventures; both on the mat and off. I would very happy to talk about Cliff.
By Peter Daly (19/04/2014)
Just having a chat with Kathy; I’ve explained that some of Cliff’s closer students are thinking of producing a history of the Olympic Judo Club; she thinks it would be a good idea and has quite a few photographs of the main team and club members, not to mention of the man himself. Anyone wishing to know more can contact me at joekerrsforge@googlemail.com Regards Peter Daly
By Peter Daly (27/04/2014)
Hope you submit it to the Archive when its done.
By Janet Penn (27/04/2014)
Hi all, I’m Shaun Lafferty My Dad Terry Lafferty, Gragham Gill ? & Arthur Fisk ran the club out of Tarpots pub in the early 70, had my left arm broken aged 5 :-), It then went to Appleton School for a why then down to Waterside. I remember training with Beryl, Lesile Peter D & the man himself .
By Shaun Lafferty (21/09/2014)
Used to go to waters edge on Sunday morning back in 1970 saw Mike Reid live there several times great venue loved Canvey then bought a house 1 Walkways off Link Road build by Lawrence homes. There was a saying two firms owned Canvey the Kings country club and Lawrence homes happy days
By john whittle (27/08/2018)
I worked in the Waters Edge in ’71 as Pot boy ( i was 16) while they were preparing the Gold Mine underneath. I used to have a cup of tea with the builders in my break. Saw Mike Reid a couple of times but there were better comedians on there . All he did was say ‘ we know where you’re going ‘ not very funny after the 10th time…
By Phil Roof (07/09/2018)
I’ve only just seen this…from 1978 I became a regular Goldminer. It was my calling so to speak, from Canvey Island punter to 40 years on, professional Soul DJ/promoter. After the closing of the Goldmine and a relatively short period at “Hillys” in East Grindtead, Chris travelled the Home Counties clubs as the headliner , always commanding a packed floor. He approached myself and another DJ with the idea of a monthly Lacy Lady ( his other residency) Reunion which we did for years playing at The Epping Country Club and two other venues in Romford. We were regularly booked every weekend at clubs predominantly within the Home Counties. The Caister Soul Weekender was brought back after an absence of approx 6 years and he birth of social media ensured that we never looked back. Chris retired from DJing 3 or 4 years ago and the Caister Soul Weekender was cancelled forever last year by the holiday camp due to the camp owners not wanting to deal with the promotor any more. Due to social media, the soul scene circuit is thriving- ok, it’s nothing as big as those glory days during the 80s but it certainly pays me a living( or did before Covid) and I get to travel to at least half a dozen countries a year ( one week to a fortnight)along with the regular Weekender holiday camps and the Soul club nights. If anyone reading this can contact Gerald, could u let him know that I would be quite happy to give Chris a call advising him about his long lost cousin…. ( If he wanted me to)
By Frostie (25/11/2020)
Gerald is an avid reader of ours so no doubt he will see this but I will let him know just in case.
By Janet Penn (25/11/2020)
Hi Frostie. Yes, Chris is my cousin and I only met him once in 1969 during my first trip back to England. We stayed at his home for one night only, his dad was quite ill at the time. We went to a school with Chris that evening where he played records for the kids to dance!! I’ve often wondered if that was his early d/j career ? Anyway, please mention me to him, hope he remembers that evening, I would be happy to have contact with him. Regards, Gerald.
By Gerald Hudson (25/11/2020)
hey ive been speaking with my mum about judo and she keeps mensioning her club at waterside with a baker brown? i know its not around anymore, but she was very good at it says she used to compete alot and won a silver against boys. Her names Kelly Murray.
By Macy Murray (11/01/2021)
I used to train with Arthur on Thursday at Appleton school with some friends Dave Dave Sarah & Jason Bonnie & Jason I would do the double class and again on the Sunday morning for 3hrs. I remember we did a Judo display for Princess Margaret when she visited the Island. Funny enough I was just talking about Cliff Baker Brown and Arthur to Dave Sullivan and decided to google to see if I could find out if Arthur Fisk was a student who fought for England back in the day not just been a coach and in buisness with Cliff. I see Leslie in the 90s when I was a sales rep she was a client of mine. I still have my trophies medals and certificates 🙏
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The Goldmine
Its been know by several names over the years
Including “The Bay Country Club”….1940’s early 50’s
I think it was Bay Country Club much later than that. An older brother was a member and I went there with him and my Dad to celebrate my 21st in 1969. Was the guy that owned named Baker? I’ll ask my brother.
Yes Tony, you are probably right about that. My father’s dance band “The Nightspots” played there from the late 40’s early 50’s and from my memory, a lady seemed to be the manageress during that period. We moved to Canada in 1953 and I learned, much later, that my cousin Chris Hill had a lot to do with “The Bay Country Club” being re-named “The Goldmine” in the ealy 70’s. The “Goldmine” story has been well documented in these archives
Hello The lady manager in the 50s wasc Mrs Cary, Don’t know if the spelling is correct but we used to hire roller skates from her on the dance floor on Sundays Regards Sparrow
Had a chat with my brother Peter who was a member of the Bay Country Club in the 1960’s. The owner then was Harry Baker-Brown. Peter thinks he took up the reins sometime in the mid 60’s. Sadly, Harry died of cancer around 1970. Peter remembered that Harry had a son who managed the English Olympic Judo team. I believe that this was Cliff Baker-Brown who seems to have been big in Judo circles (in more ways than one) and associated with clubs in Basildon and Thundersley, although I found a surprising paucity of information regarding this gent on the ‘net. However, I have found a possible relative from whom I await clarification. I’ll post anything more that I find about this potential Canvey link with Olympic Judo.
You’re right about the judo connection, Tony. Cliff Baker Brown and the judo club used to train at Waterside when it first opened in the late 1970s. There was also a woman who trained with them and I think she was also a black belt. I can’t remember her name.
Hi, Yes Cliff used to Run the Judo club called the Olympic Judo Club at Waterside Farm. I was one of his students. Cliff passed away several years ago though Leslie is about and ok not sure about Beryl. HTH…
Hi, I have a picture of Cliff standing between my Brother and I taken in 1982: – http://www.mill-judo-club.co.uk/Olympic/Paul-Cliff-Ian.jpg Here another with Dave Starbrook (Olympic Silver Medallist) http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafjudo/gallery/historyimages.cfm He run the Southern Region and the British squad as Interim Manager when Brian Jacks resigned. Before Arthur Map took over.
Just been looking at things about all this and judo, I belive these names was my grandad and great grandad never new it was all on here, was told about the stories but never new ??
I was a member of the Olympic Judo Club; I was also married to Cliff’s sister Kathy. We had many adventures; both on the mat and off. I would very happy to talk about Cliff.
Just having a chat with Kathy; I’ve explained that some of Cliff’s closer students are thinking of producing a history of the Olympic Judo Club; she thinks it would be a good idea and has quite a few photographs of the main team and club members, not to mention of the man himself. Anyone wishing to know more can contact me at joekerrsforge@googlemail.com Regards Peter Daly
Hope you submit it to the Archive when its done.
Hi all, I’m Shaun Lafferty My Dad Terry Lafferty, Gragham Gill ? & Arthur Fisk ran the club out of Tarpots pub in the early 70, had my left arm broken aged 5 :-), It then went to Appleton School for a why then down to Waterside. I remember training with Beryl, Lesile Peter D & the man himself .
Used to go to waters edge on Sunday morning back in 1970 saw Mike Reid live there several times great venue loved Canvey then bought a house 1 Walkways off Link Road build by Lawrence homes. There was a saying two firms owned Canvey the Kings country club and Lawrence homes happy days
I worked in the Waters Edge in ’71 as Pot boy ( i was 16) while they were preparing the Gold Mine underneath. I used to have a cup of tea with the builders in my break. Saw Mike Reid a couple of times but there were better comedians on there . All he did was say ‘ we know where you’re going ‘ not very funny after the 10th time…
I’ve only just seen this…from 1978 I became a regular Goldminer. It was my calling so to speak, from Canvey Island punter to 40 years on, professional
Soul DJ/promoter.
After the closing of the Goldmine and a relatively short period at “Hillys” in East Grindtead, Chris travelled the Home Counties clubs as the headliner , always commanding a packed floor. He approached myself and another DJ with the idea of a monthly Lacy Lady ( his other residency) Reunion which we did for years playing at The Epping Country Club and two other venues in Romford. We were regularly booked every weekend at clubs predominantly within the Home Counties.
The Caister Soul Weekender was brought back after an absence of approx 6 years and he birth of social media ensured that we never looked back.
Chris retired from DJing 3 or 4 years ago and the Caister Soul Weekender was cancelled forever last year by the holiday camp due to the camp owners not wanting to deal with the promotor any more.
Due to social media, the soul scene circuit is thriving- ok, it’s nothing as big as those glory days during the 80s but it certainly pays me a living( or did before Covid) and I get to travel to at least half a dozen countries a year ( one week to a fortnight)along with the regular Weekender holiday camps and the Soul club nights.
If anyone reading this can contact Gerald, could u let him know that I would be quite happy to give Chris a call advising him about his long lost cousin…. ( If he wanted me to)
Gerald is an avid reader of ours so no doubt he will see this but I will let him know just in case.
Hi Frostie.
Yes, Chris is my cousin and I only met him once in 1969 during my first trip back to England. We stayed at his home for one night only, his dad was quite ill at the time. We went to a school with Chris that evening where he played records for the kids to dance!! I’ve often wondered if that was his early d/j career ? Anyway, please mention me to him, hope he remembers that evening, I would be happy to have contact with him.
Regards,
Gerald.
hey ive been speaking with my mum about judo and she keeps mensioning her club at waterside with a baker brown? i know its not around anymore, but she was very good at it says she used to compete alot and won a silver against boys. Her names Kelly Murray.
I used to train with Arthur on Thursday at Appleton school with some friends Dave Dave Sarah & Jason Bonnie & Jason I would do the double class and again on the Sunday morning for 3hrs.
I remember we did a Judo display for Princess Margaret when she visited the Island. Funny enough I was just talking about Cliff Baker Brown and Arthur to Dave Sullivan and decided to google to see if I could find out if Arthur Fisk was a student who fought for England back in the day not just been a coach and in buisness with Cliff.
I see Leslie in the 90s when I was a sales rep she was a client of mine. I still have my trophies medals and certificates 🙏
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