Thorney Bay Army Camp

Scars Elbow & Dead Mans Point
By David Bullock

In 1940 a six pounder Coastal Artillery Battery was constructed at Scars Elbow Point on Canvey Island, its purpose being to guard against enemy torpedo boat raids. Twin hand loaded 6 pounder gun turrets were installed that could deliver up to 100 rounds a minute. It never saw action and was dismantled soon after the war and later abandoned in 1956. Aerial photographs taken in 1946 and 1960 show two large gun Casemates 40 yards apart.

Photo:Rare Photograph of Thorney Bay Army Camp taken from the lookout Tower. There is another view at the base of this page.

Rare Photograph of Thorney Bay Army Camp taken from the lookout Tower. There is another view at the base of this page.

Thanks to Peter Wonnacot

I remember as a child in the late 1960's walking along the Sea Wall past some of these concrete structures that had large slots facing the Thames. It was dark inside but my brother tells me they still had the chained lifting mechanisms inside to carry the shells up to the former guns. Apparently there were also five Searchlight positions to illuminate the water. The Camp now has all but gone, the Sea Wall based positions being destroyed or buried under the new higher Sea Wall built in the early 1980's.

Photo:This old Post Card of Thorney Bay holiday Camp aka Fielders features many of the old Army Buildings

This old Post Card of Thorney Bay holiday Camp aka Fielders features many of the old Army Buildings

Dave Bullock

In 2008 there are still a few remains in the shadow of the Sea Wall. On the easterly end of the position of the Camp is a very solid concrete garage style structure with heavy steel doors (see Photos at the base of this page) said to be an ammunition store. Just to its west there is another Concrete structure protruding out of the Seawall (again see photos at the base of this page). This area has the designation "SMR7165" and is at National Grid Reference (NGR) TQ 7868 8202.

Just to the East of Scars Elbow was the older six inch Coastal Artillery Battery at Dead Mans Point, just before Thorney Bay itself. This site has the designaton "SMR7216" at NGR TQ 7911 8216. This Battery was installed in WW1 for general defence of the East Coast. After the War in 1918 it was mothballed until 1938 when it was brought back to life for WW2. My Grandad Fred Moss told me he used to drive to the camp when he was in the Services.

Photo:Thorney Bay Army Camp

Thorney Bay Army Camp

Thanks to Geoff Barsby

Along with two Gun Casemates on the Sea Wall 40 yards apart, there were approximately 35 various army structures including huts and lookout towers. I remember a remaining lookout tower in the 1960's that was barbedwired off but people still used to climb it, including Peter Wonnacot who took the two amazing photos featured exclusively here! It is said the battery was manned by '175 Thames & Medway Heavy Battery R.A. Coast'. Many of the buildings survived well into the late 1990's but now have sadly all but gone.

The site was incorporated into Colonel Fielder's Thorney Bay Camp & Caravan site where many Londoners spent their holidays by the sea side, including my Grandparents. Today the Caravans are slowly making way for mobile homes as has happened at Kings Camp at Newlands. As for the Army Camp, there remains here another Concrete Ammunition Garage with its steel doors and there was a 'Cross Thames Cable' Hut right up until early this year (Feb 2008) when it was flattened leaving only the small adjacent warning pole. Fortunatley I managed to get some photographs of it a week before (See below). It may have been used by the Post Office, does anyone know its purpose? There is also supposed to be a Pump House  in this area but I haven't seen it.

Photo:Panoramic View of Thorney Bay Camp during redevelopment works in Feb 2008 - The Cable Hut in the foreground has since been demolished

Panoramic View of Thorney Bay Camp during redevelopment works in Feb 2008 - The Cable Hut in the foreground has since been demolished

(c) David Bullock

Click below to see what few pictures we have of these bases and the photos I have taken of what remains on the site. If you have any information, memories or Photographs please contact us or leave a comment below.

Photo:Thorney Bay Army Camp photographed from the Lookout Tower
Photo:This Photo of the building of the Council Pumping Station shows the Army Camp in the Background
Photo:Thorney Bay Army Camp in the late 1950's
Photo:Thorney Bay Army Camp including the Tower which Peter Winacott took his two photographs featured
Photo:Thorney Bay Army Camp in the late 1950's - Are these the Sea Wall Gun Placements?
Photo:Feb 2008: Foundations of Army Camp Buildings - Even this has recently been dug up
Photo:This Under Sea Cable Hut was demolished shortly after I took this Photo in Feb 2008
Photo:The Cable Hut with door open shortly before its destruction
Photo:The last known Army structure at Deadmans Point
Photo:The Ammunition House at Deadmans Point
Photo:The Ammunition House at Deadmans Point
Photo:Looking West towards Scars Elbow and its Ammunition House
Photo:Looking north from the Sea wall at the Ammunition House at Scars Elbow
Photo:The Ammunition House at the east of Scars Elbow
Photo:The east wall of the Ammunition House at Scars Elbow
Photo:Looking back along a ramp at the Ammunition House at Scars Elbow with the Sea Wall right
Photo:Feb 2008: Buried remains of the Gun Placement at Scars Elbow
Photo:Buried remains of the Gun Placement at Scars Elbow with the new Sea Wall
Photo:Looking ease from Scars Elbow at the Military Remains
Photo:Old Gates at Scars Elbow with the Pumping Station behind
This gallery was added by David Bullock on 07/06/2008.

Comments/reviews:

I grew up in the 1960's on Canvey Island and spent my weekends exploring thorney bay army camp.
The camp was huge and prior to the new sea wall you could explore everything there unless you came upon a certain Mr Fielder who owned the land.
As a child I did not realise what the camp meant to people but after finding this site I will give all the memorys I can to you about this subject.
My playground was the gunsite situated in West Cresent a place of fun for us kids.
Now I live in Cyprus and long to see the Island and it's history again.

By Christopher Culley
On 06/07/2008

I remember the towers depicted in the b&w photos. In the late 1950's, when we were kids, we used to climb to the top even though a whole section of stairs had been removed. We would pull ourselves up on part of the handrail that remained. We would also climb down the ammunition hoist that led to the very dark magazine below.

By John Dawkins
On 01/01/2009

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